In reply to Pattie L.

I agree with your viewpoint. I have a varied church history. Raised Presbyterian, and in the 70's Calvary Chapel. Then I met my husband who was raised LCMS Lutheran. He wanted to stay in his roots, in the conservative LCMS church. We have been members for 8 years now. I have not heard anything about the gifts of the Holy Spirit or supporting scriptures in all this time. Except on Pentecost Sunday. We hear of the apostles receiving the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. I do agree with the LCMS that speaking in tongues (as an example) is NOT evidence that one is saved or that it is at ALL a salvation issue. It is ONE of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. There are other operating gifts. These gifts are given to Christians now and everywhere. All for the glory of God. This site is helpful to understand. https://www.biblelyfe.com/blog/gifts-of-the-spirit I find it sad that the Lutheran Church as a whole ignores whole swaths of scripture, or perhaps these gifts are not for the church of today and ended with the apostles. However, the Bible does not support this stance at all.